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Saturday, October 27, 2012

Nebraska Open Thread AND Wangler-to-Carter Anniversary

Leave us your thoughts, comments and general whatnot on today's Michigan-Nebraska game.

And did you know that today also marks the 33rd anniversary of "greatest single play in the 100 year history" of Meeechigan football? 

Go Blue!

One of my favorite forgotten moments of the clip above is #23 (don't know the player's name) who, on the play before the final play flat out threw the ball out of bounds in order to stop the clock. You can see Lee Corso going crazy about that, and I believe the rule was changed to prevent such moves in the future. But that day it was legal, and the only reason Michigan was even able to get the final play off.

Ufer was right - "Johnny Wangler to Anthony Carter will be heard until another hundred years of Michigan football is played."  Especially if we have anything to do with it!


Nick said...

The mystery player on the previous play would be the fullback, LP Reid.

Tom C said...

Afternoon from the land of Cocky.
Go Blue Y'all

Tom C said...

I wonder if they miss ole Frank Solich

Rigby said...

B.S. on the overturned catch!Inconclusive at best.

Dennis said...

It's a little early for Lent. What persuaded Hoke to give up Touchdowns the last couple weeks?

Missed some of the game, will rewatch later, but why isn't Gardner in?

That is a pretty cool call and that was a pretty good Indiana team, and got you im the Gator Bowl instead of the Liberty.

Dennis said...

I do hope you come back, by the way. I didn't get to comment on KYF, I was thinking you would win with Nebraska being a bit gimpy on offense.

Ramona said...

Hmm.. may not be able to stay awake much longer, home sick to begin with, this is not helping. Look forward to a Monday morning postmortem... what happened to adjustments? and could the 3rd string QB be worse? Why not Gardner?...looking forward to more Andy wallpaper, will help balance out the inevitable "healing" pics that will be sure to follow this night. HOPE TO BE WRONG...

Yost said...

Well that sucked.

phil said...

Hey! What's all this laying around stuff feeling depressed?
You say Denard may be finished? You say the Big Ten Championship is "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when Woody Hayes punched the Rose Bowl? Hell No! And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough....………
The tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go! What the fuck happened to the MZoners I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest season of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you phil, we might get in trouble. Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Buckeyes are a dead team! Northwestern, dead! Iowa, dead!... We're just the guys to do it. Let's go get 'em.
Let's do it!

Andrew said...

Phil you inspire me....waiting for the Frankenstorm...feeling sorry for myself...fuck it...GO BLUE!!!!
Thanks Phil for the slap of reality....
BTW...I could really use a healing picture...

Yost said...

phil, that was simply outstanding.

Ramona said...

Hear hear! Phil, you are absolutely correct. We do NOT ever give up on the Blue!
I follow you, Phil, I follow you, until the healing pics go up anyway.... then from the man-cave I flee to go shopping!!

Big Red said...

You guys still have a pretty good shot at playing for the Big Ten championship, I'm not sure we can win out.

Bo's teams had played much better down the stretch in 2008 and 2009, going 6-1 in the last 7 games, with both loses to teams that played for the national title (Oklahoma in 2008 and Texas in 2009). This was after relatively poor starts, 3-3 and 4-3. The last 2 years though they've started off strong, reaching the top 10 in November, only to fade down the stretch, 2-3 in our last 5 games both years.

This year, well we're now 6-2 and ranked #20/21, but we haven't really looked like anything special yet this year, unlike Bo's first 4 seasons when we looked pretty good either at the start or end of the year. I really don't know what to expect over these last 4 games. We could go 4-0 just as easily as we could go 2-2, which I'm sure you guys would prefer. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Shorty the Beachcomber said...

What a dump. Brian at MGOBLOG has been making excuses for Borges in regards to the facts that we don't have his skill set players in yet, etc.. This is very true. However, the situation is exacerbated here because anyone with half a brain would ask Denard what the hell he ran under Rich Rod to be so damn good and they'd just run that until Denard graduated (you build your system around the talent, not your talent around the plays you enjoy running). Further, no one would claim that Mattison came in with his ideal personnel (not even close) and look at the job he did... in his first year and second! His work was that of a miracle worker, and while no one expects that out of every coordinator his remarkable success only makes Borges' offensive inabilities look that much worse.

Over at Ohio State they have virtually the same offensive talent as Michigan. Their QB mirrors Denard, their receivers are nothing special and neither are any of their running backs. Their O-line has no player as highly touted as our left tackle. Yet, their offense is potent. So is Big Ten leader Nebraska's, and third ranked Indiana! No matter what attrition or sub-par talent evaluation has occurred at Michigan, no one can claim that Michigan's offense cannot keep up with Indiana's due to a lack of competitive recruiting.

Some men make it to certain places based upon the laurels of their past works. However, the truly great continue to generate great success by adapting with the times of the industry, not by being a one-hit wonder or a flash in the pan that had one stroke of genius. Borges' inability to adapt is getting him into trouble. Unfortunately, Hoke is not giving the appearance that he agrees with rationale on this matter and is defending the workings of an offense that has failed to generate a touchdown in three of eight games this year with one of the most threatening quarterbacks to ever play the game serving as Captain. Because of this I am not sure just who is the bigger threat to Michigan football, Al Borges or Brady Hoke. At some point (and hopefully that is the appropriate point) one has to recognize that excuses are like assholes, and something needs to be done to clean up the mess.

Ramona said...

well, the no-TD thing didn't matter in the State game..

Mikoyan said...

Just remember....everything Rich Rod did = bad or very bad. And the sun shines out of Hoke's ass. I've often asked myself if last year's success was the culmination of the Rich Rod years and not so much Hoke. Granted, Mattison gets a ton of credit for the astronomical improvement in the defense. But what happened to the offensive juggernaut?

Dennis said...

[drums fingers together]

Excellent. It looks like my stock in Ann Arbor Torch and Pitchfork may be making a rebound.

Seriously, some of last year for you is much like some of this year for us. I didn't think you were as good as your record (better than us)though for the good of the B1G I was happy. I also think we are probably the worst undefeated team left. At times, even against defesnes with a pulse I see glimpses of what we might be. On defense, I wait for the worst. They are getting better, it will be interesting how they handdle Illinois. I think it will be closer than it should be.

I would suggest patience, which is hard. I think on offense there is still a lot of square peg round hole going on. I said earlier in the season that most of the last of the Carr guys, who better fit Hoke's vision were Sr.s last year. Hoke is in the same situation upperclassman wise that RichRod was in. On the plus side, he has more of his guys on the way up, so I don't think you will have another three year lull. Next year will be interesting, but I think your defense will win you games. And that is the difference between this transition and the last one.

This team on offense, much like ours, goes as Denard goes. We are lucky we have a better backup than you, but we did the same thing at Nebraskas last year as you. Miller got hurt and we couldn't do anything.

Big Red said...

Speaking of Denard is he okay? I hope his injury wasn't anything serious.

Yost said...


The Rich Rod offensive juggernaut was a myth. I recall a post we did here looking at his O stats and, against any team with a pulse, U-M got shut down, same as this year. Doesn't excuse this year, but also have to remove the rose-colored RR offense glasses, too.

Having said that, don't think Borges is coaching up the talent the same way Mattison is on defense.

Yost said...


He's supposed to be fine for this weekend vs. Minn.