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Friday, July 29, 2011

Big Ten Media Day Recap

Yesterday was the kickoff to the Big Ten Media Days.  Here are a couple highlights (and lowlights):


Tim at MGo and The Freep have a more detailed recap of Hoke's presser, but here are a couple of my favorites:

*  Hoke doesn't believe in rebuilding:  “I don’t think we’re rebuilding, period. I mean, we’re Michigan.”

*  Hoke on his recruiting success: “This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan. We have a global education. We’re the winningest program in the history of college football.

* Angelique Chengelis of the Detroit News asked Hoke if he will practice something everyday for Ohio State: "Maybe ... (smiles) .... it's important."


And this is his happy face
The most bizarro comment came from MSU coach and Jim Tressel protege Mark Dantonio who had this to say about the disgraced Tosu* coach:  "Every person he's (Tressel's) come in contact with as a player and a coach, he's made a positive impact on their lives. To me, it's tragic. He becomes a tragic hero in my respect, in my view."

There are a lot of things you can call Jim Tressel (liar and cheater spring to mind) but "hero" is not on the list.  As Michigan radio color analyst and former player Jim Brandstatter tweeted:

When is lying to your boss, to the NCAA heroic. Is it heroic to teach young men that wrong isn't wrong unless you get caught? Gimme a break

Even MSU blog The Only Colors found that one a little, uh, strange:

And uh...yeah.  I understand why Mark Dantonio would make such a comment, he's known Tressel since 1983 and obviously sees the now deposed coach as a mentor.  However, what happened to Tressel was not tragic unless you consider hubris to be a particularly sad way to leave a job.  Tressel lied to the NCAA about players committing violations.  He could've suspended said players, suffer a couple 7-5/8-4 seasons, then continue on with ten-win campaigns in near perpetuity.  However, for whatever reason, Tressel chose the path of deception, and the result is months of free time.  If I'm measuring tragic coach firings on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being how Mike Leach was done at Texas Tech, Jim Tressel is the one.
Then again, you are talking about a coach who thought it was professional to call a college player, Mike Hart, names a couple years ago.  Hart may be small in size, but Dantonio keeps proving to be small in stature.


As even The OZone said, the face of Not-Interim-But-Really-Interim Tosu* coach Luke "The Waterboy" Fickell "glistened" as he addressed the press during his last first Big 10 Media Day.  Glistened?  I thought it was Michael Phelps up there after winning Olympic gold in the 200m Butterfly.

Was he  nervous?  Well, you be the judge.  Below is an exclusive MZone clip of Fickell's presser.


justthinking said...

Gotta be tough knowing that just one "misspeak" and you end up implicating yourself in this whole clusterbomb at tsio.

Obviously public speaking isn't everyone's gig, but I just think that there's far more "what not to say" running through his mind than anything else.

There's generic "coach speak" and then there's "coached defendant speak". I think he's more the latter.

Ex said...

From an OSU fan's perspective Tressel is a tragic hero. He is a hero because he conquered the enemy (you guys) and he is tragic because he was undone by what appears to be, so far, a single act of bad judgment that will undermine his legacy forever.

Yost said...

Yes, a single act...except for that stuff at Youngstown St. And except for the Mo' Clarrett stuff. And the $500 handshake for Troy Smith.

I mean, what "tragic" luck that the only time this upstanding coach did something wrong, he got caught (again, not because he came forward one of the multiple times he had the opportunity, but only after the school uncovered his cover up when going through his emails).

And the "hero" part is still being uncovered by the Dispatch...


surrounded in columbus said...

what's "tragic" is people still trying to justify the lying, cheating, hypocritical SOB after every, single, uncontroverted & uncontested fact demonstrates, w/ out qualification that Sweaterboy was a cheat from the DAY he stepped on campus (starting w/ Geiger's 2001 evaluation, citing cheaty pants' failure to follow NCAA rules by providing an illicit benefit to a recruit).

it's almost like listening to Marge Schott defend Hitler.

FWIW, most of the tosu fans i know (even the ones congregating around Indian Lake this past weekend), have stopped trying to explain him away. even the most ardent tosu backers i know have come to the conclusion that he's an embarrassment and leave it at that.

Well, except for that paragon of virtue himself, Mark Dantonio.

Yeech. What a pair those two are?

On a more self deprecating note- did anyone read EDSBS’s coverage of Big Ten media days? Their assessment of Brady Hoke is priceless:

The best summary of a Brady Hoke speaking engagement is to imagine Lloyd Carr using a gigantic Matt Foley puppet to address the media.

Ex said...

I know you guys like to imagine he did more wrong at OSU than what he has admitted to, but so far, the only provable thing that cost him his legacy was the failure to report the tattoo for memorabilia swaps. Had he told the truth immediately. He'd still be coaching.

surrounded in columbus said...

read the Dispatch. Andy Geiger wrote him up for providing a recruit w/ an illicit benefit in 2001.

his evaluations tell the story of continuous noncompliance w/ a series of NCAA rules from the day he walked on campus.

those aren't some Michigan fan's "opinions". those are the finding of tosu's own ADs as written in their annual evaluation of Sweaterboy.

he was a liar & a cheat everyday he coached at tosu. Andy Geiger & Gene Smith say so.

Ex said...

Surrounded - you are probably referirng to this article?http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/07/15/tressel-ohio-state-records.html Oddly I don't see Geiger and Smith saying he was a cheater and a liar. He did have MOSTLY minor infractions like filing late, that were reported to the NCAA but they took no action. The NCAA has already said the problem is not systemic but a single MAJOR incident. No doubt the guy has ruined his legacy. But he didn't beat you year after year by cheating. I know you desperately want to believe that. But its just not the truth.

surrounded in columbus said...

didn't beat us by cheating? Clarett took money. Troy Smith took money. Pryor took money.

how many Heisman Trophy winners/candidates do you have to pay before you have an "unfair" advantage?

seriously? how can anybody be THAT dense?

note to everyone else- not all of the tosu fans are this inane. i had dinner Friday night w/ friends, most of whom were tosu fans. as one of them put it: "yeah, we sold our soul for ten years of glory. now it's time to pay the tab".

i don't have a problem w/ THAT. Tressel cheated. they won a ton. it took ten years for him to get caught. they're only going to vacate one of those seasons. my friend? he sees tosu as coming out on the high end of the deal.

i don't have an argument w/ him on it.

at the same time, he's not so shit all stupid to try argue that Tressel was anything other than a liar and a cheat, who got away w/ it for the first nine out of ten years, either.

arguing that Tressel wasn't a cheat is about as stupid as Sooner fans trying to explain that Barry Switzer wasn't a cheat, because all of the infractions that took place during his tenure were minor, and the major ones weren't discovered until after he had left for Dallas, and oh, yeah, it was just one isolated event...

you wanna sit in your mother's basement and think about what a "tragic hero" that cheating & lying SOB is? go ahead. but don't drop in an M site and comment about it w/out being prepared for people to consider you stupid for it.

Ex said...

I like coming to this site, "surrounded" because you guys need a reality check. The infractions you refer to were reported. They were adjudicated. No wins were taken away. Just because your OSU fan friends pretend to agree with you so they can get through a dinner without you crying and making a scene and getting all of you thrown out of Bob Evans doesn't make my opinion's inane or for that matter wrong.

Remember, i think Tressel got what he deserved for tattoogate. Just don't try to rewrite history with rumors, minor infractions and the like to ignore the fact that you got your asses handed to you during the years that still get counted. Good luck in 2011.

Yost said...

If I may, Ex, allow me to point you to the masthead here. It is the MZone, so changing hearts and minds is unlikely. Like going to the 'Shoe in maize and blue gear and not getting F-bombed to death.

As for what Tressel *finally* got caught doing and what he actually did, well, I'll just put it this way: AL Capone may have only been convicted of tax evasion, but to label him as merely a tax cheat b/c that's what eventually caused his downfall is a stretch.

J Martin said...
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surrounded in columbus said...

apt analogy.

surrounded in columbus said...

oh, BTW. it's 10:22 and Jim Tressel is STILL a liar and a cheat.

in case anybody needed to know the time...